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Posted 02 May 2012, 6:34 PM
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Posted 02 May 2012, 8:27 PM
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Posted 04 May 2012, 12:51 AM
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Posted 04 May 2012, 1:09 AM
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Posted 04 May 2012, 2:57 AM
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Posted 04 May 2012, 3:09 AM
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Jerry D Young
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Posted 05 May 2012, 12:36 AM
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Got some ideas from youtube and his home/shelter is built from 3 40' conex and covered by 6" of concrete anf 6' of earth. Totally off grid using pv panels, a wind turbine and 10kw propane backup generator. Trying to save up for 24 submarine batteries to replace the AGMs he started with. It's hard to write a story where the people don't have money. His big rifle is a VR-1 in .408 CheyTac. The ammo costs $140 for 20 rounds. |
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Posted 14 May 2012, 11:13 PM
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$7 per round is not practical prepping, especially in an non-standard round. This is part of a discussion that I have had with TOM's other son, who seems to think that custom building a truck that can do ANYTHING but make you toast is proper planning. I believe that having a good all-purpose vehicle that is fairly popular is better prepping, since there will be more parts available to keep it running. Same difference here. You might have a $7 round that can go twice around the world without losing energy or killing power, having passed through so many critters along the way that WWF has to declare a dozen new extinctions afterward, but if you only have 20 of the buggers and cannot possibly resupply or reload the rounds, what good do they do you when the 21st bandito shows up to help himself to the preps that you so foolishly allowed NatGeo to show the entire world? Preppers are smarter than the average bear, usually. Bog standard ammunition is easier to find and/or reload. Good weapons chambered in bog standard calibers like 5.56x45 or 7.62x51 are better than the Smith & Winchester Billy BadA– model semi-auto chambered in 7.89mm magnum semi-jacketed 189 grain that costs an arm and a leg just to shoot.
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Posted 14 May 2012, 11:45 PM
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Last edit: 14 May 2012, 11:49 PM by TiredOldMan
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Posted 15 May 2012, 12:33 AM
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The rifle is knocking on the $10,000 door, so I figured a thousand rounds would be a reasonable reserve, with 5x reloading capability. That's assuming I ever get rich and infamous. But one of the reasons I like the caliber is the mid ranges. I can't shoot 3km, as TOM points out, but I want something that I can have available that can do a hard hit on vehicles mostly at the 300m to 1,200 meter range. At only ~18 pounds and 5 rounds of semi-auto of 419 grains with ballistics that equal or exceed the .50 BMG. Just my opinion.
Jerry D Young
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Posted 15 May 2012, 1:20 AM
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However, my point is that most beginning preppers think exotic too quickly. My philosophy is to prep on a basic level first before you start purchasing bells and whistles. 9x19, 5.56x45, 7.62x51. .45 acp, .410 and 12 gauge are my first choices for their commonality and potential resupply after TEOTWAWKI.
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Posted 15 May 2012, 2:19 AM
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I have quite a bit of .22RF ammunition but have no plans to puchase another .22 rifle or pistol until they are at give away prices after the PAW hits. I figure everyone and their brother will be willing to part with a .22 for a song for a couple cans of roast beef with gravy. At some point, I'd like to add black powder cartridge arms (.45-70, .45 Colt, & .32-20) Black powder flintlocks (either .50 or .58 caliber) And a variedy of non firearm weapons, just to scratch an itch for that 100,000,000 to 1 chance that things eventually regress to that point, but mostly as a past time.
Jerry D Young
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Posted 15 May 2012, 3:05 AM
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If you have goods, you can trade for a little. If you have skills, you can trade for a lot. Besides, I don't do electricity very well, and that puts welding off my list of potential trades.
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Posted 19 May 2012, 5:38 AM
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Better yet, ifn' yer talkin' bout sometin multipurpose, check out this nice little lady. Wild West Guns - The Alaskan CoPilot It is a Marlin 1895 setup for take-down barrel, with a lengthened chamber that will accept the 457 WW, .45-70, 410 shotshell and slug, and 45LC. Five loads in one barrel. I'm considering sending mine in just for the chamber and muzzle porting mods, and the new bigger lever loop. That alone will set my already wonderful little guide gun up on the pedestal she deserves. Yes, I'm partial to the little lever gal. |
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Posted 19 May 2012, 5:57 AM
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